Brett Payne, MA, M.Div.

Spiritual Life Coach

I grew up a professor’s kid in Oxford, Ohio. After finishing a degree in history at Miami University I married Susan and went to Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary where I studied Church History. In later years I also finished an M.Div. in Church Music at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky.

I have had a consistent and passionate interest in Christian spirituality and spiritual formation and have served in a variety of ways as a pastor and worship leader in churches for much of the past twenty-four years. I have been in Pennsylvania for almost ten years. I am now a full-time partner with CrossPoint ministry.

My passion for God and a deep desire for healing and unity in the church has driven my calling. I believe God can bring substantive change to our souls through his ministering presence and have come to realize that my greatest passion is in bringing this hope to others. My coaching with Rich Plass and my experiences in retreat series, such as  Deeper Journey, have been more important than any of my schooling in nurturing spiritual practices that have strengthened and sustained me in life and ministry. I am extremely thankful to be part of the CrossPoint team. You can find out more about my CrossPoint ministry on the east coast at

Susan Payne, MS, MSCC


I have enjoyed the people, culture, and food of DC, Boston, California, Kentucky, Philly, England, and Japan… even though I am a mid-western Michigan girl at heart. Being moved by the deep relational and spiritual needs seen through women’s and small group ministry and my twenty years working as a speech therapist (Gallaudet University), I later returned to school for a master’s degree in Christian counseling (Cairn University).

My participation in Deeper Journey gave me the clarity and courage to pursue my calling. I now specialize in grief recovery, coming alongside people as they adjust to life’s twists and turns. I am passionate about the importance of living in community and have enjoyed leading small groups and training leaders. Co-leading the Deeper Journey Philly retreats with my husband is a privilege and a gift. I also serve as a Christian counselor with Serving Leaders Ministry.

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